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  • Sire Larry Carlton S7 FM Electric Guitar

    Posted by Zimmie on March 9, 2023 at 10:50 am

    I ordered a Sire S7 guitar last week, and after taking it for a test ride, it’s going back. Here’s my take:

    It has some really nice features for the price. SSH pup configuration with a bridge coil-splitter. Sound quality and tone is very good, nice roasted maple neck that is easy to play. I would have kept it if it wasn’t for one issue. The fretboard is lacquered, and the frets weren’t spot-on level. I actually fully expected the frets not be accurately levelled, but I wasn’t expecting a lacquered fretboard. Unfortunately, that detail was omitted from the guitar’s specs on Sweetwater. Without a lacquered fretboard, the frets would be fixable.

    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LCS7FMTBIp–sire-larry-carlton-s7-fm-electric-guitar-transparent-blue

    Zimmie replied 1 year, 1 month ago 5 Members · 16 Replies
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  • damian

    Administrator
    March 9, 2023 at 11:10 am

    I haven’t tried any Sire guitars, however saw this post by @Pete playing a Sire (I thought it was a Suhr), and it looks and sounds great: https://www.sixstring.com/members/pete/activity/510/

    I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen a lacquered fretboard – so the lacquer is over the frets? Or just makes it hard to file them and/or remove them?

    I’m really a buy and play guy, without doing any actual work on the guitar, but maybe I should actually try doing some mods to my guitars. Just scared of messing them up!

    • Zimmie

      Member
      March 9, 2023 at 11:33 am

      Almost all of the Fender Strat’s and Tele’s with maple fretboards are lacquered. Yes, right over the frets.

      I’ve been doing most of my own guitar work (setup, fret leveling, etc.) for about 15+ years. It was simple economics that got me started. It was costing me way too much to have someone else do the work. So I paid a local luthier to show me how. To fix a lacquered board is doable, but extremely tedious and time consuming. You have to carefully strip the lacquer from each fret (usually with a razor blade or Xacto knife). And unfortunately, if the frets were left partially unfinished under the lacquer (which is more common), you end up with a bigger problem. That’s one of the reasons I never buy a guitar with a lacquered board on the net. My Strat and Tele both are lacquered, but the fret work is near perfect, so I was able to get the action down to “butter” on both of them. 😎

      I’ve probably spent far too much on luthier tools, but you really end up with what you pay for. I’ve tried some inexpensive luthier tools, and almost always regretted it. StewMac is a bit pricey, but worth it most of time.

      • This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by  Zimmie.
      • damian

        Administrator
        March 9, 2023 at 1:06 pm

        I’ll have to do some homework and read some articles on getting started with guitar setup! Unless you have any suggestions? 😀

        Also – do you tend to work on a “practice” guitar first before taking the scalpel to your higher end instruments? 🔨 🤘

  • Zimmie

    Member
    March 10, 2023 at 5:14 am

    There’s a lot of good information out there. StewMac.com is a good place to start. Also search youtube. StewMac has a lot of ‘how to’ videos and books.

    The first couple of guitars I did levels on were mine. Fortunately they came out really good. Familiarize yourself with the process, and then go slow. But generally, most do start with a semi-throwaway guitar, just in case…😎

    • damian

      Administrator
      March 10, 2023 at 8:07 am

      Thanks for the info! May have to get a few tools and little workspace and a inexpensive guitar to do some experimenting! 🎸🔨👍🤘

      • Gaghiggs

        Member
        March 10, 2023 at 8:13 am

        Just a big bastard hammer and some lemon oil Damian 👍🔨🔨🔨🔨

        • Zimmie

          Member
          March 10, 2023 at 10:03 am

          🤣😂

      • Zimmie

        Member
        March 10, 2023 at 10:22 am

        Here’s some necessary tools:

        Straight Edge – there’s 2 types; plain flat, and notched for frets. I prefer the notched version. It’s much easier to get the neck straight when you’re not dealing with frets that are not level.

        Fret Rocker – It’s used to check for high and low frets.

        Sanding Bar – Sand paper is a better choice for leveling frets than a file. I generally use 400-600 grit. Used with 3M sticky paper.

        3M Polishing Paper – It’s easier to use than traditional sandpaper on frets. I start with 400, then 600, then 800 or 1000 before polishing with 1200-8000. I don’t buy it from StewMac. It’s much less expensive from RioGrande.com. I sometimes will use a dremel buffing wheel for polishing with brown rouge.

        Fret Crowning File – Diamond is better than a traditional file. It leaves a smoother surface. I like the StewMac Z-File best.

        I’m sure I forgot something, but hopefully this should point you in the right direction. 😎

  • Notecracker

    Member
    March 10, 2023 at 9:17 am

    And put 13’s on it !

    • Zimmie

      Member
      March 10, 2023 at 10:04 am

      🤕 ouch 😎

  • Plexico

    Administrator
    March 16, 2023 at 7:38 am

    Got the lacquer off this one and pleased with the results! Medium frets – would have liked larger size. Oh well.

    • Zimmie

      Member
      March 16, 2023 at 8:03 am

      Nice! What was the removal process like?

  • Plexico

    Administrator
    March 16, 2023 at 8:06 am

    I used 0000 steel wool very lightly!!!!

    • Zimmie

      Member
      March 16, 2023 at 8:09 am

      Wow. Great Job! That’s a lot of work!

  • Plexico

    Administrator
    March 17, 2023 at 8:50 am

    Thanks. It was about an hour (on and off).

    • Zimmie

      Member
      March 17, 2023 at 11:08 am

      Only an hour. That’s impressive. I would’ve thought at least a couple of hours.

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